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Car remote frequency signals.

Post  aboh on Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:22 pm

Was reading somewhere in a website where the guy remote was spoilt and got a replacement for 20RM in johor. The workshop scan for the radio frquency and made a duplicate for the guy to use (and who knows a thrid one for himself to do car shopping). Recently came out in the newspaper a guy left his car locked and return to find some items stolen in his car. He suspected someone scan and manage to "detect" the remote radio frequency that the car remote is using to communicate and use it to unlock his car while he was away. How can we defend ourself from such things? Manual lock is safer than remote?
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Post  starstruck96 on Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:40 pm

having some problems on the car originals remote lock.the usually lock sound was not heard upon locking...
wat could have happened? Question

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Post  Ikon on Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:39 pm

aboh wrote:Was reading somewhere in a website where the guy remote was spoilt and got a replacement for 20RM in johor. The workshop scan for the radio frquency and made a duplicate for the guy to use (and who knows a thrid one for himself to do car shopping). Recently came out in the newspaper a guy left his car locked and return to find some items stolen in his car. He suspected someone scan and manage to "detect" the remote radio frequency that the car remote is using to communicate and use it to unlock his car while he was away. How can we defend ourself from such things? Manual lock is safer than remote?

Depending on what kind of remote you are using Cool. Obviously that guy did his remote for RM20,must be he is on the cheapo kind of remote with only 1 code so much more easier to duplicate. Evil or Very Mad I'm not too sure about Aveo, but for Optra our remote comes with the immobilizer, there have been numerous occassion when you read in forums both here and across the causeway where they tried to duplicate the key but was refused by the 3rd party. The only way for them is to go back to the agent to duplicate their keys and this cost them RM400 to RM500. My point if outside vendor cannot do, means other people also cannot scan the codes!

For those on aftermarket or thinking of getting one, just don't jump on the cheapest you can find, the cheaper it is, the less complicate the design, the easier to duplicate the codes. Therefore please read or go do your research on the product you intend to install before committing.
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Post  Ikon on Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:42 pm

starstruck96 wrote:having some problems on the car originals remote lock.the usually lock sound was not heard upon locking...
wat could have happened? Question

What's the usual lock sound? The alarm chripping or the click sound? Aveo door lock is it like Optra? If no sound but did the door get lock or not?
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Post  Guest on Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:14 pm

BoW wrote:
starstruck96 wrote:having some problems on the car originals remote lock.the usually lock sound was not heard upon locking...
wat could have happened? Question

What's the usual lock sound? The alarm chripping or the click sound? Aveo door lock is it like Optra? If no sound but did the door get lock or not?

For aveo stock alarm, when lock, a single ''beep'' sound with hazard lighted once. To unlock, no sound but have a hazard lighted once. FYI.

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Post  pussy_lover on Sat Feb 20, 2010 2:18 am

BoW wrote:
starstruck96 wrote:having some problems on the car originals remote lock.the usually lock sound was not heard upon locking...
wat could have happened? Question

What's the usual lock sound? The alarm chripping or the click sound? Aveo door lock is it like Optra? If no sound but did the door get lock or not?

Bro, for optra when u lock got the beep sound. Only unlock no sound (at least in my case)

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Post  Ikon on Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:05 pm

Actually what I wanted to know is the door lock, if it's like Optra, the lock stalk is at the window side. Some cars the lock is by the catch that release the door.
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Post  starstruck96 on Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:34 am

i scutinised for the persistent problem n found out the cause.
its the bonnet catch (not lever) that was not locking up the bonnet..it doesnt close properly due to vibrations.
its the spring bolt n nut area..it came loose somehow.
so its back to normal for now..
thanks. Wink

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Post  Captivian_Major on Mon Feb 22, 2010 11:09 am

my one lock and unlock no sound...jus nice tis morning my maid bring all my barang barang to my car and forget to lock(?) with one of the rea door open...Sad

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Post  starstruck96 on Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:23 pm

better do a thorough check brO...dun wan to be caught off guard of no locking up the car.

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Post  Captivian_Major on Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:59 am

starstruck96 wrote:better do a thorough check brO...dun wan to be caught off guard of no locking up the car.

from StarAuto to Alphine the answer is like tat lar..... Sad No

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Post  Ikon on Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:30 am

Our alarm system work differently from aftermarket car alarm. The higher end will also have immobilizer as well. This alarm system is also up for discussion whereby some people have decided to forgo their immobilizer and settle for aftermarket alarm system where the thing will make all the funny noise but is totally useless against theft.

In any alarm system, the key word here is warning. It's crucial that the LED lights is visible to potential thief, this is a deterrent system, whereby by sight they will know that the car is armed. You can follow Mustaffa style, i.e. the sell the fake camera housing with LED light at $4, this look like real and most people will assume there is a camera in there and will behave themselves. You can also do the same for you car, just put a blinking LED light to let people think it's armed with an alarm system.

However not all alarm system can deter theft, some thief are known to be very daring, if they see your valuable left behind in the car, they can just smash the window, let the alarm sound, grab your laptop or whatever and fled before anyone can be alerted. The deed is done.

So part of your car security should be your responsibility, i.e. don't leave valuable visible in the car. The other more important part is where the alarm system can be by pass, if thief do this kind of by-pass, they intend to steal the entire car, this is where the immobilizer comes in. Although they may silence your car, but they will not be able to drive away they car. More complicated immbolizer would also involve anti-jacking, means if they jack up your car to be towed away, the immobilzer would be activated, unfortunately I don't think our immobilizer is such.

Now back to our alarm system, if you use your remote to lock and arm your car, you will hear the chirp sound. If you don't hear the chirp sound, this would mean that you have lock your car but your alarm is not armed. Why, the logical reason would be that either one of your car door, boot, bonnet is not close properly. So if you lock and no chirp, please inspect your vehicle for any of the opening not shutting properly.
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Post  starstruck96 on Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:04 am

kudos to the above statement. Surprised

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